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Dan of TDAXP introduced us to the 910 Group  — “5GW and the Anti-Jihad” — which led to an interesting exchange that has now expanded into a kind of open-source exploration of ways the Lebanese people can fight the threat of Hezbollah:

Towards a practical 5gw - special case: Hezbollah:

The Lebanese government does not have a Black September option with regard to Hezbollah. It is too weak and the Hezb is both too strong and too willing to escalate without limit. That means March 14 and its friends have to be creative to see the revolution through.

The point of this discussion is to look at the forms that creativity might take. I’ve invited some people whose writing focuses on Lebanon and others whose writing focuses on the kind of warfare in which Hezbollah specializes, 4GW, to participate. So it’s two groups of people who, I think, can learn a lot from each other. Please feel free to reference and link to as much of your own work as you think will be relevant to this discussion. Don’t be shy.

For my part, I don’t want to say much. I’ll make a few comments here but once the discussion starts, I’d rather get out of the way.

I do want to start with a couple of basic assumptions. One is that 4gw, as Hezbollah or anyone else practices it, aims not only at undermining a particular state but also the nation-state system. The other is that 5gw is a counter-4gw. So in this case I define 5gw as whatever you have to do to defeat Hezbollah. Feel free to dispute these, but it’s a place to start.

[Abu Nopal]


I think that’s a very good place to start, and I approve of the open-ended approach toward a consideration of 5GW.  Abu Nopal has already launched a consideration of some points I’ve previously made concerning general aspects of 5GW vs 4GW, and has added some brainstorming about 1.) Israel’s decision to pull out of Gaza and 2.) the recent Hezbollah-Israel war — including some interesting conclusions. (Also: “Where I run into difficulty is with a clandestine approach. Secrecy has two great difficulties…”  Follow the link to find out what they are!)

Intriguing thoughts, and an eminently worthwhile project!  I will enjoy following the thread as new voices are added to the discussion!



Update:  Apparently, the 910 Group has split, with Abu Nopal forming a splinter group (with a membership of one?) called the Burning Core and the rest of that group retaining the name in order to spew froth and silliness in La La Land.  Hey, let’s hear it for static:  Huzzah!  Huzzah!  Huzzah!

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