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With the new commenter authentication system, a few D5GW visitors have reported experiencing difficulties, for which I apologize. The link above gives an overview of the new comment login system, which I’ll outline again below. Anyone still having difficulties commenting can email me at cgweeks@gmail.com or else leave a comment on the Forums. (The Forums require a separate registration and login; i.e., through a different system.)
[TypeKey users: see update below!!]
Dreaming 5GW now allows three methods for logging in to leave a comment:
- OpenID Login
- LiveJournal Login
- On-Site Registration and Login.
Every blog post on D5GW will first list the OpenID login and the LiveJournal login, for visitors wishing to login in one of those ways, followed by a link to login or create an account with D5GW for those visitors without an OpenID or a LiveJournal account.
Additionally, visitors to D5GW may login on-site or create an account with D5GW from the main page of the blog, by using the form or link in the top portion of the right sidebar.
OpenID Login
OpenID logins require an established OpenID identity.*TypeKey users: see update below Acquiring an OpenID identity is relatively easy. Here’s the info previously posted:“How to turn your blog in to an OpenID” — a pretty good introduction and tutorial
“What is OpenID” — Wordpress faq on OpenID. WP bloggers already have an OpenID, even if they don’t know it!
My OpenID — a free OpenID server, for establishing online identities.
idproxy.net — another free OpenID server, using Yahoo! accounts for creating an OpenID identity.
The first link above contains useful information and links for anyone wishing to create an OpenID for use with logging in to D5GW or a growing number of sites.
LiveJournal Login
Essentially: If you have a LiveJournal account, you can use your username as your login at D5GW. If already logged in to your account at LiveJournal, logging in here will mean a couple quick redirects, first to LiveJournal and then back to the page where you want to leave a comment. If you are not already logged in to your LiveJournal account, you will be directed to a page where you can log in and let LiveJournal know which information, if any, should be passed to D5GW.On-Site Registration and Login
This method may cause some problems for returning visitors who have previously commented at D5GW. Previously, D5GW accepted TypeKey logins for commenting, and thus D5GW’s logs include records for old TypeKey identities. These commenter records cannot be removed without also removing all comments previously made with those identities. The new commenter registration requires new identities — usernames — be used; no duplicate usernames are allowed. For returning commenters, this means that the old TypeKey identity cannot be used for the new commenter identity, i.e., for Username in the registration form:
Your TypeKey identity is the name used at the end of the link to your TypeKey profile page — e.g., http://profile.typekey.com/[Identity] — and will not be available for logging in or creating an account at D5GW if you have previously left a comment at D5GW with that TypeKey account.
However, for returning commenters, the Nickname in the registration form can be set to the previous TypeKey commenter name or duplicated for multiple accounts, or set to something else. The Nickname is the name that will display for every comment left at D5GW after on-site login.
At present, the plugin used for the on-site commenter registration will still display a link to TypeKey on the small image displayed beside the displayed nickname, but it will be an invalid link created with your on-site Username; e.g.: http://profile.typekey.com/[On-Site Username]. — provided that no TypeKey account exists with that username, that is. This is a bug in the plugin that will hopefully be fixed in an updated version; I mention it now so visitors may be aware that whatever unique username is chosen during registration will still appear on the blog, in that link. (Thus, you may not want to use your real name as your Username.)
Additionally, visitors should be aware that the site admin. will not be able to retrieve lost passwords; however, registering a new account is relatively simple, and the same Nickname — the display name — can be used for the new account, if you forget your password.
Finally, you will need to enable javascript to use the commenter login methods, and you will need to enable your browser to accept cookies if you want your login information remembered for future visits.
* UPDATE: As noted in the comments to this post, TypeKey users have an additional method of logging in even though the standard TypeKey authentication process is not being used on D5GW. Actually, the method is the OpenID method. Just enter your TypeKey Profile URL into the OpenID text field and hit “Login via OpenID” to log in. E.g., my profile page on TypeKey is:
and yours will be:
Turns out, TypeKey is an OpenID server. If you are already logged in with TypeKey, you’ll be able to post immediately after logging in at D5GW using your TypeKey profile URL as your OpenID. If you are not logged in with TypeKey, you’ll be directed to the TypeKey login page; after logging in at TypeKey, you’ll be directed back to the post page where you’ll be able to leave a comment.
Time permitting, I’ll edit the login area of individual post pages to reflect this capability.
Posted by Curtis Gale Weeks on May 23, 2007 06:11 AM
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I have been able to comment only with my OpenID userid, not anything else.
Seems insane to me. Why would I be the only person capable of using the on-site registration and login —- and with multiple accounts? I could create a new one now, say “Ipswitch”, and post immediately under that account.
It boggles my mind.
I should say, the OpenID works well for me. And since my user name and blog name are the same, visually it looks right.
Try using this combo to log in and comment here:
Username: D5GW Commenter
Password: D5GW
My problem is that I can’t isolate a problem if I’m not experiencing it myself.
Test
test
test with openid
Um…I just discovered that TypeKey is an OpenID server!
So those who have used TypeKey to comment can type their profile URL w/ TypeKey in the OpenID field to login. If already logged in to TypeKey, you should be able to comment at D5GW immediately after hitting “Log in via OpenID”; if not, you’ll be directed to the TypeKey login screen and then redirected back to the post page to leave the comment after logging in with TypeKey.
So, for instance, my OpenID via TypeKey address is:
http://profile.typekey.com/cgaleweeks/
If you have a TypeKey account, yours will have a different name, your TypeKey identity, at the end:
http://profile.typekey.com/[TypeKey Identity]/
Now, of course, I’m going to leave this comment to test out the process…
Hmmm… the commenter name displays [typekey.com] beside the typekey identity; while the OpenID image links to that profile, just like the old TypeKey authentication method — and the link on the commenter’s name is whatever has been entered in the URL field above.
testing, testing. from work, testing
Typekey/OpenID test.
Woo-hoo!
Technically, the whole address does not need to be entered. So, e.g., this time I merely entered the following into the OpenID field:
profile.typekey.com/cgaleweeks
The same is true when I use the local MT OpenID Server (which the 4 D5GW contributors can use, albeit not as simply as using the TypeKey/OpenID route) —
phaticcommunion.com
(That’s mine, only, since I have “http://phaticcommunion.com/index.php” set up in my MT Author profile.)
More OpenID uses are possible. Apparently, the profile page at Technorati was once an OpenID identity (according to one comment I read recently elsewhere) although since Technorati revised its design that feature seems to be gone. All Wordpress users already have an OpenID through their own blogs; and I believe that all AOL users also already have an OpenID through AOL.
Additionally, it may be possible to add a little code to one’s own main blog index, between the < head > tags, to use TypeKey/OpenID authentication by entering one’s own blog address into the OpenID field, according to this comment elsewhere:
(replacing [ ] with < > symbols)
I haven’t tested it, although given what I’ve been reading about OpenID, that looks about right.
Also, if you have code of some sort in your own blog’s main index page, you might be able to design a FOAF file and reference it also on your page, so that many OpenID logins will display your particular commenter display name rather than an URL as the commenter name. For TypeKey/OpenID logins, this is not so much of an issue since your TypeKey identity is used (with TypeKey in brackets beside it.) But other OpenID set-ups might benefit from a FOAF file. For instance, whenever I log in through OpenID using Phatic Communion, my FOAF file on PC enables my commenter name to be displayed — Curtis Gale Weeks — rather than “phaticcommunion.com” as the commenter.
Ah, with the TypeKey code, “username” would probably need to be replaced with your actual username; i.e., your TypeKey Profile URL would need to be listed as the openid.delegate.
Test comment. (Comment Registration plugin has been updated with a slightly tweaked version/bug fix.)
Test comment for new computer.